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Ben Reeve Lewis' Friday Newsround #15

July 8, 2011 by Ben Reeve-Lewis

Ben on a chair[Ben Reeve Lewis explains why he is against prosecution for the sake of it, and boasts a full set of teeth  … ]

This week’s inspiration comes from two sources.

Firstly, nobody in our field of interest could have avoided Jon Snow’s Dispatches documentary on Channel 4 about rogue landlords, even if you couldn’t be arsed to watch it. I did, but with a shrug and a loss of interest in the last 20 minutes because for me it was just like being at work. Which is why I don’t watch the misery-fest of fly on the wall shock docs……I work in it, I confess I ended up turning over and watched a re-run of desperate Housewives instead.

Secondly, I got involved in some post programme outraged twittering, which threw up a bit of confusion between me and a woman called Lisa Orme, (Hi Lisa) who couldn’t understand why I was against the Shelter campaign against rogue landlords, especially given that I earn my living by prosecuting them and, unbeknown to most, since 1998 I have been an occasional trainer of landlord & Tenant law for Shelter.

So why the resistance?

baseball batsWell, I am not against prosecuting rogue landlords. That Safi geezer in Dispatches is depressingly common. Baseball bats and harassment is standard stuff in my neck of the woods. I know decent landlords, who outnumber the rogues massively hate what the Safi’s of the world do to their reputation but there are loads out there. Sad but true. I have no compunction in taking them to the cleaners but Shelter’s campaign seeks to tar too many people with the same brush.

Leading questions

For a while now Shelter has been asking for information from local authorities about how they deal with harassment and illegal eviction. I have their questionnaire on my desk right now and what irks me is that the way the questions are set out you can’t do anything but either look like you are doing a great job or a shit one.

Put simply, they want to know how many complaints you have dealt with and how many prosecutions you have taken out. As if prosecutions are the only way to deal with complaints, and if you don’t prosecute, you are failing in your duties of care to the community who pays you.

Prosecution is not the only deterrent

I hate to sound like a broken record…..and a Rambo style one at that, but I have dealt with stabbings, shootings, even throat cuttings by landlords on their tenants but the vast majority of cases of harassment and illegal eviction that I deal with are low level stuff, committed by desperate people, amateur landlords ignorant of the law, not thugs.

teethThe thugs I will deal with. As a TRO I can have landlords arrested and personally specialise in taking out injunctions against the most violent ones, which I have to do about 5 times a month, my colleague does the same…..that’s how common it is. I must be good because I still have all my teeth. But most aren’t that bad, so why is prosecution seen as the only deterrent?

Shapps’s crew ditched the Rugg recommendations when they got in, saying there were enough legal deterrents already in place and that the onus was on local authority’s to pursue those aims, Shelter jumped on that pronouncement. But what do you do when a tenant owes £3,000 rent arrears to a small landlord, whose property is about to be repossessed because they can’t meet the mortgage, on the basis of an arguable claim for disrepair? Just take the tenant’s side and prosecute anyway when both parties are about to lose their homes?

Who benefits?

Criminal prosecutions under the Protection from Eviction Act 1977 are what I get paid for but who benefits from this? The tenant? The landlord gets fined but the tenants gets nothing out of it usually, that’s even if you can persuade a magistrate to take it seriously enough to levy a full fine, which they rarely do.

The landlord? An amateur getting out of their depth, are they really cast from the same mould as Peter Rachman and Nicholas Van Hoogstraaten?

I have the greatest respect for the work that Shelter do, and I follow their director Campbell Robb whose views I totally agree with but I don’t agree that the rate of local authority prosecutions shows that the problem is being contained.

My individual approach is to get the landlord and the tenant around the table whenever I can. Get them to understand each other’s lives, see each other as human beings.

I have a theory, that there are 2 ways to be a landlord:-

Hands off: These are the property professionals. As a tenant you never meet them but when you call up about a repair it gets done, no quibbles. If you get into rent arrears all the relevant paperwork is in place and everything is done by the book.

Hands on: There is a relationship between landlord and tenant. The tenant hits a bad spot, the landlord cuts some slack. The landlord has a BBQ and invites the tenant. The tenant understands the landlord’s financial situation.

Both of these approaches work, depending on the personality and individual style of the parties involved.

Regular readers will know that I am currently (reluctantly) a tenant. In the past I have also been a landlord. My current landlord is type 1, and that suits me right now, it makes me feel secure. When I was a landlord I was type 2, because that suited my style and my ex tenant, (who for a year, after a relationship breakdown, became my landlord) I now count as one of my closest friends.

The small minority

Shelter are quite right to promote the prosecution of genuine rogue landlords, the Safis of the world, boasting on Dispatches about knocking people’s teeth out and that vile female assistant of his whose views were, if anything, even worse, and that builder/surveyor who professed a dislike of what he was doing but kept saying “that’s business innit?”.

But even in South East London they really do represent a small minority not just of landlords but also of rogue landlords too. Most rogue landlords I meet do daft things out of desperation and ignorance, not a general pre-disposition to violent behaviour.

The real problem

The real enemy in all this is just ignorance of the legalities and complexities of letting, which is ridiculously complicated. Great for my training income but not for landlords and tenants trying to get by. I would love to see my role change from being a prosecutor to a mediator. Someone who occasionally bangs heads together but whose overall role is to help landlords and tenants understand each other.

Ben Reeve Lewis

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Ben is a founder Member of Safer Renting, an independent tenants rights advice and advocacy service working in partnership with the property licensing and enforcement teams from a number of London boroughs.

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Comments

  1. Ben Reeve Lewis says

    July 9, 2011 at 8:17 AM

    I know its naff to reply to your own post but I was heartened this morning to read that recent member of the Law Commission’s Public Law team understands my plight http://alexsarchives.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/dispatching-rogue-landlords/

  2. Darrel says

    July 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM

    Nice blog mate…totally agree that most of the ignorance is actually with regards the law
    and not the landlords being violent

    However my concern is regarding the lack of knowledge in the agent sector which has increased with more and more estate agents joining the scramble for landlords and business. How can you manage a property well and keep upto with legislation for 5%???

  3. Tessa Shepperson says

    July 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM

    Hi Darrel and thanks for posting.

    I am going to be publishing a post on agents and regulation on Monday so watch this space.

  4. Ben Reeve Lewis says

    July 9, 2011 at 3:09 PM

    Ah My hobby horse Darrell and I know Tessa feels the same.

    An amateur landlord goes to an agent for advice, support and a professional service. All agents advertise themselves as such. You never see an advert saying “Bit dodgy on the law front, staff only half a clue about what is required but we will guarnatee to stick £150 on a £9.99 credit reference check for each party”.

    I’ve said it before many times, if you want a lawyer to represent you they have to have qualifications, insurance and a wealth of accreditation credentials before they can even open up shop.

    A letting agent is dealing with complex housing law issues that if they get wrong put the landlord in a position where they can be sued for a variety of damages, end up with a tenant they cant remove and even liable for criminal prosecution and yet there is absolutely no requirement for regulation of them. Even a mechanic has to have qualifications and certificates and yet these people position themselves as professionals in housing law.

    Have you heard about the Plymouth agent who went out of business this week? Having ripped off their tenants and landlords alike, did a runner with everyone’s cash.

    I dont want to be the typical housing rights adviser just bleating on about. I want decent agents to also be calling to stamp on these people who give them a bad name. Its oin their interests too

  5. westminster says

    July 25, 2011 at 2:35 AM

    “Criminal prosecutions under the Protection from Eviction Act 1977 are what I get paid for but who benefits from this? The tenant? The landlord gets fined but the tenants gets nothing out of it usually, that’s even if you can persuade a magistrate to take it seriously enough to levy a full fine, which they rarely do.”

    So why don’t the tenants in question bring civil claims for damages?

  6. Ben Reeve-Lewis says

    July 25, 2011 at 8:44 AM

    A good and valid point Westminster and with a simple answer for once. try finding a local solicitor who knows Jack about landlrod/tenant law. They are as rare as hen’s teeth. They all have ‘Housing’ laminated in their windows but its largely meaningless.

    I havent counted the solicitor’s firms in my borough but I would imagine it is around 100 easily but none of them do this area of work thats why I am in court so often.

    If I could find just one local solicitor who knew this stuff and was prepared to work with me on cases I would be a happy man and we could get loads done.

    The rare few who do know housing law are usually the main firms who challenge the council over homelessness reviews and there is always the possibility of conflict of interest, as my team is based in the homelessness unit.

    Civil damages are definately the way to get a result and a quick one at that but this is my problem with the Shelter campaign, the practicalities of getting justice is beset with logistical problems

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